Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by maeghan » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:08 pm

Giarc wrote:I read the Graham Hancock paper also. I completely disagree with the paper. Hancock is not what this papers author suggests. How do I know that? My gut...my intuition.

The author comes off as an anti drug advocate with paranoid schizophrenic tendencies. Everybody is the boogie man and they're all out to get me. Granted, boogie men do exist. However, Graham Hancock is not one of them. I would think a real "psyop" would be to try and convince others what this paper is attempting.

Of course, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
Well, I see how right now is very similar to the 60s ... even the disco. I think it's wise to question everything. I"m not sure what to think about the paper.

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Here's a book that I would like to read eventually; I listened to an episode on John B Wells' show 'Caravan to Midnight' where he interviewed the author, David McGowan. http://www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Insi ... 1909394122
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by Djchrismac » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:02 am

Giarc wrote:I read the Graham Hancock paper also. I completely disagree with the paper. Hancock is not what this papers author suggests. How do I know that? My gut...my intuition.

The author comes off as an anti drug advocate with paranoid schizophrenic tendencies. Everybody is the boogie man and they're all out to get me. Granted, boogie men do exist. However, Graham Hancock is not one of them. I would think a real "psyop" would be to try and convince others what this paper is attempting.

Of course, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
The fact that he is even in the company of the likes of Russell Brand and Joe Rogan sets off even more alarm bells for me, those are two more ops who REALLY can't be trusted. I think Mathis is correct, I see society getting more and more relaxed about drugs and sex and other distractions and more and more they are appearing on mainstream TV. I see those two topics as winning hands, if the sheeple start paying attention give them more technology, more free drugs, more sex...

Hancock is pretty much the pre-cursor to the Ancient Aliens crew, talking of lost civilisations with no mention of them being bad in his earlier work before moving on to say that DMT, Ayuhuasca and other shamanistic drugs should be taken "because it's a human right" which is the opposite of what daniel teaches, that drugs just dumb down our true abilities and fog up our mind and remember shamans went through lots of training before delving into the spirit world and the likes of Hancock, Rogan and Brand are all on mainstream TV these days telling us to not vote, take drugs, have promiscuous sex and ignore chemtrails! Rogan had Mick West of metabunk/contrail science on his show!!

I admit I was a bit surprised at reading the paper initially because I have followed Hancock's work and have read almost all of his books including "Supernatural" which never felt right for me, when you look back you can see the patterns. Here are a few more links to ponder...

http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/08/08/ ... l-network/
http://thomassheridanofficialblog.blogs ... ometh.html
http://thomassheridanofficialblog.blogs ... up-he.html
http://thomassheridanarts.com/articles. ... cle_id=140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHkonQS82r8
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/1 ... democracy/
http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/09/1 ... -campaign/
http://www.the-big-picture.org.uk/wp/?page_id=11246
http://www.the-big-picture.org.uk/wp/?p ... 22#hancock

Still unsure about Hancock? He's also on the blog roll for Cobra...

http://galacticconnection.com/

Megan, I wouldn't worry about Bill, I think the the-big-picture.org.uk says it best:
Profile : William Melvin "Bill" Hicks was an American stand-up comedian, social critic, satirist, and musician. His material largely consisted of general discussions about society, religion, politics, philosophy, and personal issues. Hicks' material was often controversial and steeped in dark comedy. In both his stand-up performances and during interviews, he often criticized consumerism, superficiality, mediocrity, and banality within the media and popular culture, describing them as oppressive tools of the ruling class, meant to "keep people stupid and apathetic".

Credibility : Hicks constantly faced problems with censorship. He wrote, "On June 16, 1993 I was diagnosed with having 'liver cancer that had spread from the pancreas.'" He started receiving weekly chemotherapy, while still touring and also recording his album, Arizona Bay, with Kevin Booth.

Evidence : Bill drew attention to, among other things, the ruling elite; J. F. Kenney's assassination; the war on drugs; the Waco siege and spirituality through awakening the third eye. His agenda was a threat to the Illuminati and he was gaining a significant following prior to his death.

Links : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZkO779Vgjg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7bcxBf2vK4

http://www.the-big-picture.org.uk/wp/?p ... 1222#hicks
Bill was going to be a right thorn in their side so he was taken out, like Karla Turner, Lloyd Pye and many more, often with fact acting cancer....

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Jones: [looks at Sallah] You said their headpiece only had markings on one side, are you absolutely sure? [Sallah nods] Belloq's staff is too long.
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by maeghan » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:33 am

Djchrismac wrote: Bill was going to be a right thorn in their side so he was taken out, like Karla Turner, Lloyd Pye and many more, often with fact acting cancer....

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Yeah, I think he was taken out too. I had my first show back in July and I sampled some of Bill.
Djchrismac wrote: The fact that he is even in the company of the likes of Russell Brand and Joe Rogan sets off even more alarm bells for me, those are two more ops who REALLY can't be trusted.
I tried listening to Joe Rogan a couple of times but he just didn't jive with me right. Brand was Katy Perry's man, no more needs to be said.

As for Hancock, I don't think he signed a pact with the NWO consciously; I think it's quite possible that he's manipulated. I know he's spoken of being addicted to weed. Because of what he said about ayahuasca, I've thought that it would be helpful to me in getting off of adderall. Maybe not.

I did always wonder in the back of my head about the connection Hancock had with the screenwriter of the movie 2012; long 'hmmmm' there.

As for Pinchback, something seemed off with him too when I saw him in the documentary about DMT he seemed healthy and gung ho. When I saw him on Gaiam tv doing his own show, he seemed off, beaten or worn out and lifeless. This reminds me, I'm gonna go cancel my subscription to Gaiam.
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by Giarc » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:45 am

There was a time in my life some years ago where I would read every night non stop. About all of these sordid things.

For me, It just got old after a while. I can only read the same thing a few hundred times before I've lost interest.
I agree about the attack on the human being from a big picture standpoint. I believe Bill Cosby once called it the "Dumbassification of America", which I thought was spot on.

I spent a couple of years delving into that "side" of things. Chemmies (as we called them), we first noticed in 2003 or so. And shortly thereafter came the "Christmas Trees." Which are the lights in the sky that flash red, green, yellow and such. Which I eventually thought might just be some kind of reality generators within this holographic simulation. Off the deep end I suppose.

I wake up tomorrow and I observe. Interference within a standing wave...if you will.

At any rate, I've digressed. I'm tired and need to sleep. And I think I see a boogie man headed toward my door. The Annuna I presume. Right on time...as usual :~)

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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by maeghan » Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:25 am

Ok, so I'm looking around at Miles Mathis' site and I see one thing that makes me ring my BS meter ... how is it that someone who can debunk all these people like Hancock claim to visit InfoWars everyday?
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His biography lacks any bit of humility.

Here's a paper of his that kind of makes we want to vomit ... http://mileswmathis.com/redpill.pdf The whole idea of alpha males and alpha females? While I'll be the first to say that some people are more aware of what's going on, and some people have the ability to figure things out faster, I don't like the idea that we can be graded like that.

I'm looking some more though and I can agree with this paper of his, I've thought it for a while now. http://mileswmathis.com/hovey.pdf

No one person has all the answers, and I guess I'm just reminding myself right here to make up my own mind. Cheers all :)
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by Lozion » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:23 pm

Mmm, yeah endorsing Alex Jones is a red flag for me. Though he is right about Brand and possibly Hancock as well.
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by maeghan » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:33 pm

Lozion wrote:Mmm, yeah endorsing Alex Jones is a red flag for me. Though he is right about Brand and possibly Hancock as well.
The "treachery" runs deep...
Well, perhaps he's not updated his links page for a while?

Hmmmm, maybe I'll send him an email and ask him ... if he still visits inforwars everyday and believes that they are an untainted new source.
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by maeghan » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:20 pm

Somewhat off-topic ... but not really. Ken's recent post about the false east/west issues was re-blogged on the popular site:

2012: What's the 'real' truth

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/09/1 ... ent-306890

Go have a look, it's both sad and comical how easily people fall for these 'gurus' and experts.

I made a reply to Jean's comment here: http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/09/1 ... ent-306009

Here's what I posted, it's awaiting moderation ...
Ken isn’t ‘selling’ a story, he’s offering his research and reasoning as to what’s going on in the world. I have to say I haven’t been here in quite some time; I used to visit this blog numerous times throughout the day. Who is this woman Lada Ray? All I could come up with is that she goes to great length to hide her ‘real’ identity online. She even uses a ‘virtual office’ in Hawaii to serve as an address for her organization. I ask these questions because of the language she uses, it’s borderline manipulative.

Lada Ray doesn’t address the article, instead she addresses the comments and uses that to ‘debunk’ the article.There is also quite a bit of ‘ad homonym’ going on with her language. Please Jean, look at the language she uses. “Conclusion: people have gone mad with the flood of conspiracy theories, and they are being deliberately confused and broadsided with the proliferation of disinfo, just as I explained and predictied.” Perhaps this is just a self-fulfilling prophecy. Also, it’s a passive aggressive and manipulating tactic to put people down, and use the opportunity to raise yourself up.
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by Lozion » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:55 pm

Good job Meaghan, of course this will be thrown in all directions in the comments section so take what resonates and leave the bickering to those who revel in it.
Oh, btw it's ad hominem (from latin "to the person") and not homonym (from greek "same name"). :D

Edit: I do have to add that Ken's leitmotiv, dissecting the hegelian dialectic being played on us by the banksters, may leave unfamiliar readers with a sense of hopelessness. That is precisely his aim, to deconstruct the programming we have at externalising our 'salvation' coming in the form of a Savior/Event/Ascended Masters/ET's to the rescue. The solution is in us, in small communities creating the world we want to be in.
I agree.
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Re: Rising sun/(Dawn of) A new day, or world, or dawn

Post by maeghan » Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:02 pm

Lozion wrote:Good job Meaghan, of course this will be thrown in all directions in the comments section so take what resonates and leave the bickering to those who revel in it...
Oh, btw it's ad hominem (from latin "to the person") and not homonym (from greek "same name"). :D
thank you, I wasn't very eloquent about it. I've been winding down this evening; I had a long day. I'm expecting to be barked at, but I think I can block it so the energy doesn't affect me. Whups, haha ... hominem. Yeah, when I was in college I really really wanted to take a Logic course but dropped out before I had the chance.
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