RS2--daniel

What do these people think they are building?

BBB wrote:The Parker Solar Probe will depart in June 2018 and is set to orbit the sun in 2024. Nasa is paying about $1.5 billion to build and launch the spacecraft which will send back data from around 89 million miles away.

Yeah NASA is paying, should read 'passing on the money they stole from the public'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-en ... ch-the-sun

The same with the 'death dive' of the Cassini space probe, what are they watching on their screens, hundreds of people getting excited and tearful over a CGI animation? These are intelligent people, have they not worked out that most of it is nonsense? This is one of the things I struggle to understand, these people dedicate their lives to doing this and truly believe all of it is happening, is it just a massive case of cognitive dissonance?

We do have satellites and probes though, yes the moon landing was faked but there is still a space agency there, in several countries, launching the many satellites and space junk clogging up our orbit. They do fake a lot of footage but it doesn't mean that every single space mission or launch is not real.

Instead of thinking that, you should ponder what they are really doing under the cover of The Parker Solar Probe, said by the mainstream to "touch the sun"...

Here is a mainstream example of saying one thing to hide another:

The NEXRAD WSR-88D dual polarization doppler radar

Mainstream explanation:
The UK Weather Radar Network is designed to provide continuous, real-time rainfall data over almost the whole of the UK land area and inshore waters. The data can provide valuable information for immediate emergency response in times of extreme weather conditions, as well as providing data to flood planners when managing future risk. In addition to rainfall data the radar network provides observations for the Met Office numerical weather prediction system, in the form of Doppler measurements of wind and a novel technique for using radars to measure of changes in humidity.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/w ... ar-systems

Reality:
http://weatherwar101.com/nexrad/nexrad-wsr-88d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h1Zwv4cis8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BS7_IHl9UU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnLn4J0nzLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dslvUyZaSps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TTah8H77tU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R01I6DxAuuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc94IaRzcPU

It's definitely doing more than "collecting data" from what I have observed:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... k3N6dGKOwx

The UK doppler network is also built in tandem by the MOD and Met Office, and the MOD protect all radar sites in the UK. A bit of overkill surely if it is indeed just a scientific instrument... except it is so much more than that.

Now, given what we know about the sun, that it is an inside out planet and vice versa, that it isn't as visible as we have been led to believe when outside our atmosphere, that it fires out sunspot particles that appear dark to us because the are flipping over past the speed of light into the other realm... and so on and so forth, isn't the opening caption in the BBC video quite telling?

"This spacecraft is set to be the first ever to reach deep into the sun's atmosphere"

Very interesting... surely the budding home scientist will think... "hang on a second, I KNOW the core of the sun can reach more than 27 million degrees Fahrenheit (15 million degrees Celsius), and I KNOW that the photosphere is about 10,000 degrees F (5,500 degrees C), then the chromosphere, the next layer of the sun's atmosphere is a bit cooler — about 7,800 degrees F (4,320 degrees C)... temperatures rise dramatically in the corona, which can also only be seen during an eclipse as plasma streams outward like points on a crown. The corona can get surprisingly hot, comparable to the body of the sun. Temperatures range from 1.7 million degrees F (1 million degrees C) to more than 17 million F (10 million C)... so how deep "into" the sun's atmosphere do they plan to go? How will they shield going through the corona to get to the "cooler" layers?? (https://www.space.com/17137-how-hot-is-the-sun.html)

Initial confusion and doubt will soon be tempered by trusting in science... which is scarily like a new religion the way some people I know hold it up as a form of truth. "Ah ok, it only needs to survive temperatures up to 1,300C (2,500F), then I saw people in a lab talking about it, ah mind put at ease, praise science!"...

I suspect there is much more going on than meets the eye, 1.5 billion for a probe the size of a small car, which looks to have zero heat shielding... 4 million miles may not seem close, but either it's made of an adamantium-vibranium alloy... or alternatively, the sun isn't quite as burny as we have been led to believe! Even left with these two options, the budding home scientist above will probably put more faith in us having developed a marvel universe alloy for use in the space programme, than entertain the thought that science and the industrial friendly government that funds it would ever lie to them and misdirect them from the truth.

Another scneario is that the probe gets destroyed or lost, not that this is a common thing... hard to find exact figures, but on the bright side, 1.5 billion isn't as bad as 10 billion!

The Top 10 Failed NASA Missions

In space, no one can hear you screw up

5. Space-Based Infrared System (SBIRS)

The Mission: A series of classified surveillance satellites, SBIRS was supposed to answer the Air Force's need for tracking ballistic missile launches. Consisting of high and low orbit satellites, SBIRS is scheduled to go on line next year.

The Problem: Ignoring the $10 billion cost overrun for the project, and the possibility that it won't work at all, one of the first SBIRS satellites shutdown only seven seconds after reaching Earth Orbit. The satellite's safety mechanism malfunctioned, putting the satellite into safe mode, and reducing it to what the then Deputy Under Secretary of the Air Force called a "useless ice cube".

https://www.popsci.com/military-aviatio ... es#page-10

And the reciprocal is... "On earth, no one can see you cash up."

DJchrismac wrote:The UK doppler network is also built in tandem by the MOD and Met Office, and the MOD protect all radar sites in the UK.

Wow i din't know the MOD protected these

DJchrismac wrote:We do have satellites and probes though, yes the moon landing was faked but there is still a space agency there, in several countries, launching the many satellites and space junk clogging up our orbit.

Looks like I misunderstood some things then. I was under the impression that NOTHING could get past the gravitational limit (just past the moon) but it is just manned craft that cannot, probes/satellites can? But still, 93 million miles?

You just reminded me actually, I saw an Eric Dollard video where he talks about the sun being a transformer from another dimension and having no inside structure and it being cold. I've typed out what he says in the short 2 minute video.

Eric Dollard wrote:there's nothing inside, it's not burning anything, there's no fusion in the sun, only in the flares/arcs, there's no fusion in the sun, they don't know how the sun works. It's a transformer, transforms form another dimension, it's not burning anything, it doesn't have to, it's a converter. Yeah you could say it's taking energy from another dimension, counter-space, there is no energy actually, most of it you cannot even measure it in outer space or see. You can't see the sun in free space, it only becomes visible when gross matter becomes involved, like the earth's atmosphere and envelope and the surface of the moon or whatever, that makes the light. Otherwise there is no light, you can see the moon, you can see the earth but you can't see the sun or can't see the stars. You can see material objects but you can't see the sources of light, there is no light until there is a material object. So there is no time delay, it doesn't take light years, there are no light years cos there's no light. That means the light you see from the distant stars isn't 4 million years old, it could be only minutes old could be instantaneous. all the theories collapse when you can't see the stars in outer space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6bE5uvSA9s

trippingthelight wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:17 am

Wow i din't know the MOD protected these

Indeed, I emailed you a few OPERA and Met Office PDFs confirming this.

trippingthelight wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:17 am

Looks like I misunderstood some things then. I was under the impression that NOTHING could get past the gravitational limit (just past the moon) but it is just manned craft that cannot, probes/satellites can? But still, 93 million miles?

The gravitational limit extends to the edge of the solar system, where some of the probes sent out to explore have been recorded slowing down... as if they have reached some kind of outer limit!

Probes are fine to pass the moon and explore the solar system, but with the current limits of technology and understanding you can forget it, if you are biological life and have a silver chord attached to the planet that is.

trippingthelight wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:17 am

You just reminded me actually, I saw an Eric Dollard video where he talks about the sun being a transformer from another dimension and having no inside structure and it being cold. I've typed out what he says in the short 2 minute video.

Dollard is well worth a watch, his videos including the one you posted have been discussed either on here or AQ previously.

Djchrismac wrote:Indeed, I emailed you a few OPERA and Met Office PDFs confirming this.

Hmm I'll have a look, I did have issues viewing attachments with Thunderbird, i'll try again.

DJchrismac wrote:The gravitational limit extends to the edge of the solar system, where some of the probes sent out to explore have been recorded slowing down... as if they have reached some kind of outer limit!

I have just had a look around and found some quotes that led me to believe that the gravitational limit was just past the moon.

daniel wrote:But all the evidence points to the fact that they have never been able to get a spacecraft past the gravitational limit of the Earth (which is out near lunar orbit), because reaction thrust requires a low-speed (Larson's 1-x range), 3D zone in order to function--as well as an atmosphere to push against.

http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/The-Colonization-of-Tiamat-V-Phoenix-III-Daniel.pdf wrote:For our world, the outer gravitational limit is just outside the orbit of the Moon, about 300,000 miles
away. This forms an impenetrable barrier to our technology, because our rockets are based on
vectorial motion through coordinate space. Past the gravitational limit, there is no coordinate space, so
rocket engines just don’t do anything (conventional laws of physics do not apply in a scalar zone).

trippingthelight wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:01 am

Hmm I'll have a look, I did have issues viewing attachments with Thunderbird, i'll try again.

Let me know if you can't download them and i'll send via normal email.

trippingthelight wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:01 am

I have just had a look around and found some quotes that led me to believe that the gravitational limit was just past the moon.

daniel wrote: But all the evidence points to the fact that they have never been able to get a spacecraft past the gravitational limit of the Earth (which is out near lunar orbit), because reaction thrust requires a low-speed (Larson's 1-x range), 3D zone in order to function--as well as an atmosphere to push against.

http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content ... Daniel.pdf wrote:
For our world, the outer gravitational limit is just outside the orbit of the Moon, about 300,000 miles
away. This forms an impenetrable barrier to our technology, because our rockets are based on
vectorial motion through coordinate space. Past the gravitational limit, there is no coordinate space, so
rocket engines just don’t do anything (conventional laws of physics do not apply in a scalar zone).

Thanks for clarifying, looks like I was confused between what I thought was the limit for humans being just outside the moon and the gravitational limit of the solar system, although some old posts add further food for thought....

(From an AQ private forum post - reality fracture)

Hi Dave, I think that the rocket thrusters work up to a point where they can place the satellite into orbit so that it is essentially freefalling around the curvature of the earth in the very upper atmosphere, before it is fully in the vacuum.

Probes such as voyager probably use an advanced tech that we are told is just conventional thrusters, hence they can still report on the oddity of voyager slowing down as it reaches the gravitational limit of the solar system.

So it could be advanced tech that we are not aware of...

As pointed out in LoneBear's post on discrete, scalar motion... everything has discrete boundaries--cages to contain them. For particles and atoms, it is the unit boundary, for cells it is the life unit boundary, for aggregates, the gravitational limit. In a discrete system, nothing is continuous and reaches out to infinity... it always has a stopping point, some limit that cannot be crossed like prison bars.

Overlapping of boundaries between planets etc. should also be taken into consideration.

https://forum.antiquatis.org/viewtopic. ... mit#p13489

What was eventually concluded was that anything outside the gravitational limit of the solar system could not be seen, because light travels along with the progression, and therefore cannot cross the progression unless light is moving faster than light. And it doesn't do that, by definition.

... or it is all a fake job to distract people hide where funding is being diverted to (e.g. black ops and the other space programme).