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United States, Inc.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:58 pm
by Kent
daniel wrote:Do not waste your time on Affidavit's of Truth; by "driving," you were engaged in the "transportation of goods or people for profit" (doesn't matter what you were actually doing), and as such, were in the employ of the government, since "citizen" is just another word for "employee," as we now live in a municipality (municipal corporation), not a state or country. You have violated company policy, and they took away the privilege that they gave you when you got your drivers license.

Though the Articles of Confederation do give you the "right to travel," which means you can travel by any means or mechanism available, it does not infer the right to "drive," as "driving" and being a "driver" all have special, legal meanings.
Hello!, I have been meaning to start a 'proper' thread and introduce myself as I've been reading CH for quite awhile, but have not gotten around to posting until now. When I saw Daniel's response a few days ago I knew it was time for me to write. Similar to the synchronicity Daniel described in his Rubicon post, I recently came across the idea that the United States is a privately owned corporation rather than the united States, or "states united" that the Founding Fathers referred to, and then saw this idea referenced in Daniel's response above.

Can anyone here shed some light on this? I've heard pieces of this described over the years, but have never heard a satisfactory or complete understanding of the phenomena. The author I referenced above is Wayne Frank Barbuto, I have not read his book, nor do I have any connection to him other than coming across his materials (I believe his website is itsnotthelaw dot com).

Should I transfer this topic to a brand new thread?

Kent

Re: My Music My Misery

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:28 pm
by tymeflyz
driving/driver is legalese for ...using you car or horse or whatever "MODE of the TIME" on the public road for or as a means of profit {ie..business] this is why the states tell you driving is a [privilege=TAX] not a right.
Any time your apply for state or fed license or permit- you at such point will waive any other rights you may have CLAIMED before the WAIVOR .
The state[s] cannot create a privilege {TAX} from something that is considered a RIGHT.
Please note your BILL OF RIGHTS is mis-termed -
correct understanding should be; BILL OF >GOV SHALL NOT ENCROACH = on YOUR INALIENABLE RIGHTS.
This is a very long confusing topic -as TPTB intended it to be misleading , as most law is adversarial in its application.

FWIW ..Wayne Frank Barbuto, is pretty much on the mark !! Big problem RT NOW is LAW and COURTS are NOW a farce .
YOUR guilty until proven RICH $$$ ...me so sad ; [

Re: My Music My Misery

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:31 am
by Kent
I remember from perusing Barbuto's website that he noted the difference between unalienable and inalienable rights, and if I remember correctly he also touched on the topic of sovereignty. Makes me wonder if it's possible to reclaim one's rights and become a sovereign entity who can then interact at their choosing with their local government(s) as opposed to being subjected to rules and regulations without direct, informed consent which is how things seem to be playing out currently; it just seems like a lot of the restrictions placed upon us are done 'under the radar' so to speak. Maybe I should just buy his book and see what he has to say, I've only read his sample chapters. I thought this forum might be a good place to raise the issue. And I've been meaning to participate here for some time.

Sometimes I think that our day-to-day rights may not matter in the sense that it's possible to attain self-direction and personal evolution without the permission of the local environment.

Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:58 am
by daniel
I would suggest the book, Pied pipers of Babylon, by Verl K Speer.

It was definitely an eye-opener for me.

Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 10:53 am
by Kent
Thanks Daniel! I'll hunt a copy down.

And thanks to the Mods for starting the thread.

After thinking about it I agree with tymeflyz though. I did answer my own question earlier - my intuition tells me that regardless of political or psychosocial climate (and control), personal growth is possible. In fact, the control mechanisms themselves are likely just another distraction to prevent individuals from focusing on broadening themselves. I see so much outrage on alt media sites and forums as people uncover what's going on and how we're restricted. I understand the frustration, but it makes me wonder if people could channel that energy into something more productive that they wouldn't be better off.

Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:56 pm
by daniel
Kent wrote:I see so much outrage on alt media sites and forums as people uncover what's going on and how we're restricted. I understand the frustration, but it makes me wonder if people could channel that energy into something more productive that they wouldn't be better off.
Changing the distribution of energy does not change it's form... wanna guess what happens if you channel anger and range into another project?

Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:53 am
by Kent
Seems that I chose my words poorly, I was trying to suggest people might be better served if they didn't act with anger and outrage (easier said that done, I realize) when faced with the nature of the control mechanisms of our world. I suppose I was suggesting a transmogrification of the energy rather than a (re)channeling.

Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:14 pm
by daniel
Kent wrote:Seems that I chose my words poorly, I was trying to suggest people might be better served if they didn't act with anger and outrage (easier said that done, I realize) when faced with the nature of the control mechanisms of our world. I suppose I was suggesting a transmogrification of the energy rather than a (re)channeling.
Anger and outrage are a consequence of having an expectation violated. Normally, an unmet expectation is just a disappointment. If that disappointment becomes a threat to survival, then you get angry and if becomes a threat to the "larger picture," you become outraged. In the old days, discoveries similar to what is now going on would have triggered everything from a good, old fashioned "necktie party" (a hanging), to a lynch mob, to a revolution. But now, we have laws against all of that, so the people that need to be lynched can use massive amounts of force to keep the deception--and associated anger and outrage--up as high as it can go.

And when people are angry, they aren't thinking straight--and become predictable and controllable.

Sports did vent a lot of this anger in the past, which has now converted over to very violent films and video games. It is all about venting the anger of the population from all the deceit that is being dumped on them into an outlet. Should that outlet ever collapse... well... there is often a return to the "old ways."

Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:44 am
by soldierhugsmember
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Re: United States, Inc.

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:42 pm
by AnAncientAwakening
I would suggest the book, Pied pipers of Babylon, by Verl K Speer. It was definitely an eye-opener for me.

I just finished reading it for the 2nd time. It's a good introduction to the nature of the underlying frequencies being piped by the Piper. The final 20 pages or so of the book present a series of correspondences shared back and forth between the authors (George Hill and Verl K. Speer) and Joe Cobb, the assistant to former Congressman Ron Paul. It was interesting, reading Cobb's responses to Hill and Speer: His massive ego nearly jumps off the page, and he goes instantly on the offensive: smearing the names of the authors, ignoring their well-versed research, and acting all-together like a spoiled child slinging mud-balls. I'll tell ya, the comment over at Antiquatis, concerning the drawing out of a person's true character by making them angry, has been something that I have taken more and more notice of these days. It's amazing: Everyone thinks that they've got it right, and woe to the fool who attempts to present thought-provoking evidence that shines further light upon a particular subject. My opinion of Cobb's hostility is that he truly believes that which he is espousing and, upon someone attempting to take the issue any deeper than his own research has allowed, lashes out in anger: "How DARE you gentlemen attempt to shed new light on an issue that I, Joe Cobb, assistant to a Congressman, have already laid forth quite clearly." While not necessarily believing Cobb to be a paid shill, (Paul is another matter), I think that his ego has most definitely gotten in the way here, and he is responding in typical fashion, i.e. he's just another in a long line of useful idiots, whose knowledge and intelligence are being used up for all the wrong reasons. It's very interesting, seeing the reactions of the 'academics' when presented with research that contradicts the very foundations upon which their own research is based: They resort to little more than mud-slinging tactics. It's kind of like the ending of 'Trading Places', where Mortimer Duke goes ape over his massive losses in the stock market, throwing a wild tantrum on the floor of the NYSE. Behind that veil of academia and supposed intelligence lies a spoiled child that never got enough hugs as a kid.

One of the aspects that interests me concerning this conversation over the corporate nature of the living entities on this planet is that of the Cestui Que/Foreign-situs trusts created through the use of our birth certificates, social security numbers, etc. Through my own correspondences with a retired out of Pennsylvania, I was able to obtain, through a broker at Fidelity, the CUSIP number and subsequent value for the mutual fund which holds the funds of my 'legal fiction' as set forth through my Social Security number. I look at something like this and think, "they are purportedly creating these accounts for every single entity born into this world. So then, it stands to reason that there must be a paper trail on this that stretches from here to the moon." It's interesting merely from the standpoint that it possibly fills a gap in the knowledge base concerning the Fed and the IMF, i.e. these funds must be so vast it scope that they represent a significant portion of the monies required to continue propping up this absurd system. Not only that, but I'm thinking that people might like to know what their 'government' is up to; although it's my suspicion that, should some thought-provoking work on this be released, and should some real, hard evidence be set forth, most people would only be looking to attempt to 'get their money', completely ignoring the crux of the issue, i.e. this 'beast' is not even treating you as a 'living person'. I'm told that brokers at Fidelity know of these accounts, but have been warned (internally) not to do the CUSIP transfers on birth certificate and ss numbers, thus in turn providing them to clients. However, as was stated in Pied Pipers, finding a judge who is aware of most (if any) of that which is stated in the book would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I believe that to be true of these Cestui Que trust accounts as well, i.e. I've considered simply walking into a Fidelity office and asking about these accounts, seeing if perhaps I can get someone to say something on tape (I've already gone into the office to verify that the CUSIP exists, and that it is a mutual fund). I'm fairly certain that it would be a fool's errand, i.e. I doubt that anyone in these local offices has any knowledge of this. It goes way above them, I would think. They're on a need to know basis. Besides, I'm at the point at which I wish to expend my energies in more positive ways. I could spend a lifetime attempting to expose corruption; or I can be more constructive by being a part of efforts to put humanity on a path towards the evolution of consciousness. That's what the Ranger gathering is all about, and I am very much looking forward to being a part of this. Indeed, learning about the truer essences of nature and existence is far more interesting...