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Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experience

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:05 pm
by AzertyLSD
Hello fellow Earthlings / Star Beings (pick the one you prefer) !

To make a long story short, I recently (29th of November) had the "chance" (the word is obviously inappropriate given the synchronistic way all this happened :geek: ) to go on a cosmic trip with my friend the Spirit Molecule (AKA I vaporized D M T). For those unfamiliar, I guess Google will be of some assistance.
Since it's my only experience, it's tricky to say but I do feel like I had a "breakthrough". Inhaled the smoke and after 6-7 seconds... I was in hyperspace, wondering if I would re-enter that body one day :o .
"I" didn't encounter any entities, the trip was purely visual and "sensation" based. But -oh boy- what visuals !! :shock:

Now, if I bring this up it's because (as most of us have) I had read daniel's papers shortly before.
All these ideas were compelling and fascinating, but obviously 3d time and 6th densities are things one has a hard time wrapping his head around at first.
You may start to see where I'm going with this:
one of the big 'revelations' I had during that trip (there are several, of course. Like "death" and other jokes ;) ) was that amazing sensation of having actually "seen"/"felt" these higher densities.

And after that, I watched many videos of Bashar (alleged ET channeled by Darryl Anka) and in one of 'em he hints that not everyone goes "as far"/ to the same "place"

At that point, I thought of writing this.

And then yesterday happened...
I took some magic truffles (psilocybe Hollandia) with some friends, we were in a really nice place with good music, etc...
  • I should specify that we were rather "serious" about this experience, which was more of an exploration kind of thing.
While outside I was pleasantly surprised while looking at the uniform blue sky to see the same (super complex) patterns I saw with 'spice'...
:idea: That was the moment I "got it": these shapes are representative of 'my' frequency/vibration. I'm looking at myself, so to speak.

So the rather vague question is: what do you think of all this folks, what does it inspire you, can you maybe point me in some interesting direction, ... ?
And maybe more specific questions would be: do the pineal gland and DMT play a role in Ascending ?
Do psychedelics represent another "route" to get familiar with "the other side" ? (I'm referring to daniel's suggestion of exploring dreams to "mind-map" time-space and create a link between conscious and sub-conscious...)
For instance does your body produce more and more of that molecule until you reach a constant "altered state of consciousness" ? :ugeek: Any information will be greatly appreciated !

Peace brothers !

PS: I've also experimented with relaxation/meditation using such sound as "Earth 432Hz" with interesting results.

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:00 am
by Lars-star.
If you ask late comedian Bill Higgs, you would get a thumbs up on this. In my personal view, any drug that alters your perception of reality also mess with your bio-electrical system or Qi. This is why practitioners of Qi-gong or other esoteric schools of self-cultivation abstain from this practice. You cannot "upgrade" your frequency level, without having "cleaned" your channels for the bio-ecetrical energy to rise ( the larger mereidians going along your spine) this is for the prana, to rise or the unhealthy chi or qi to be expelled and replaced with healthier energy. And drugs will block the flow.....some qi-gong master even tell us, that the well being we feel when under the influence, is actually our chakras and immune-system "speeding up"..this speeding up will result in a burnout later..kinda like batteries being shortet out..and thus resulting in "non-well being" ...you know..the ying and the yang----the balance must be maintained and the universe will maintain it.

yes, I like getting stoned..but recreational only, i dont expect real change from it..it only gives you and experience which you can achieve without it, if you work for it.

But then again, experiment..and please tell us how things go.

happy new year

I hear you, but I'm not sure this applies...

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:12 pm
by AzertyLSD
:)

*By authorities trying to prevent the use of "paradigm altering" substances... :roll:

I probably don't need to remind anyone that mushrooms have been used for centuries by different cultures. Not necessarily for "recreational purposes" either.

What I do feel the need to point out is that, as far as I'm concerned, Ayahuasca (in which the main psycho-active molecule is [almost] always DMT (Dimethyltryptamine)) has been used for centuries by shamans (who seem to be pretty knowledgeable when it comes to physical well-being) as Medicine. (Ayahuasca is nicknamed "The Purge"...)

So, like I said, I'm not sure this applies to these specific substances. They are not (physically) addictive, not toxic, they only have positive physiological side-effects ;)
Lars-star. wrote: But then again, experiment... and please tell us how things go.
You can count on it ! 8-)

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:08 am
by Ilkka
Hi AzertyLSD

I know a bit of chemistry since my title is Laboratory Assistant (currently unemployed) and the main psycho-active substance is Dimethyltryptamine in ayahuasca.

I think i read somethings from Daniels papers or comments(or it was somewhere else) that indicate that you would need proper preparation for the psychedelic use such as ayahuasca, like shamans do in South America and other places. Some ancient shamen in Finland (country I live in) have been using Amanita Muscaria for spiritual purposes. Ive also used LSD, Psilocybe Cubensis, Vaporized DMT(never got the desired effect cuz lungs couldnt handle it) and 2C-P (which is close to Mescaline). Almost every trip I had was very nice and I dont see no point taking such drugs anymore, although there is one in on my "to do list" that is Ayahuasca, so if I ever get my hands on some im gonna use it, even though I dont need it. I still get goosebumps when listening to my favourite psychedelic music like "Shpongle - Divine Moments of Truth" when im sober of course and it helps my headaches (chronic headaches and migranes).

For the addictive part I must say that they are addictive on a psychic level, but not on physical level. Even I was somewhat psychicly addicted to LSD in 2011 when I first started my psychedelic experiences, however I got out of it and have been thinking alot since and got to a conclusion that I have mostly learned everything from them drugs and im going to move on. I think psychedelic drugs are there for learning purposes only, not just for the kicks or fun. And same for all the drugs like the most common of them all Alcohol(as in Ethanol since there are many alcohols). I learned a long time ago that alcohol is the one of the worsest drugs of all and it should be also learned from, but sadly there are many that use it almost daily to get drunk like my own father and his new wife and my mother still works but every time she has free time she corks a bottle, my big brother is almost the same everytime he gets money almost all is gone to buy beer or whiskey or vodka. Not that im sad about of all this (maybe on the inside) family stuff ive told them about the option they have yet they choose to live the same they are so used to and its their free will. Maybe im cold hearted as some may say cuz I dont feel for them, but I know emotions are only so shallow when it gets out there and I have learned to choose not to get emotional, because I know my emotions and so there for I dont need to use them either. So there is my stories about learning and teaching as "The Law of One Ra" would say it.

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:12 am
by AzertyLSD
Ilkka wrote:Hi AzertyLSD
[...] For the addictive part I must say that they are addictive on a psychic level, but not on physical level. Even I was somewhat psychicly addicted to LSD in 2011 when I first started my psychedelic experiences, however I got out of it and have been thinking alot since and got to a conclusion that I have mostly learned everything from them drugs and im going to move on.
I think psychedelic drugs are there for learning purposes only, not just for the kicks or fun.
[...] Not that im sad about of all this (maybe on the inside) family stuff ive told them about the option they have yet they choose to live the same they are so used to and its their free will. Maybe im cold hearted as some may say cuz I dont feel for them, but I know emotions are only so shallow when it gets out there and I have learned to choose not to get emotional, because I know my emotions and so there for I dont need to use them either. So there is my stories about learning and teaching as "The Law of One Ra" would say it.
Well, I've only just started reading The Law Of One but what you state resonate strongly with the two main principles I've come across so far:
  • -Meditation is always the preferable option to access the "higher realms"
  • -Free Will is absolutely key and cannot be messed with
Thanks for sharing that, mate. ;)
  • And a Mind-melting Sun-Earth-Human Transforming year to everyone !!! :mrgreen:
Now, if I may be so bold, can I insist that I'd like to also discuss higher Densities and such ? :ugeek: (Where's the daniel when you need him ? :twisted: lol)

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:06 pm
by AzertyLSD
daniel wrote:You have the opportunity to begin accessing 3D time, since the option must be exercised as a free will choice. It is not forced upon you, unlike geopolitical agendas. There will not be any biological signs if you have not chosen to make the effort to advance yourself as a knowing, conscious act.
Given that idea, is it totally preposterous to suggest that using DMT or Mushrooms, for instance, with that specific intent may lead to interesting places ?
I'm not trying to replace meditation (or dream-mapping) with anything, just curious about other possible paths 8-)

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:58 pm
by daniel
My take on psychoactive drugs, in general, taken from the SoldierHugs comment page:
daniel wrote:IMHO, drug use is a personal decision, and none of my business. But when I was young, there was a Native American shaman I used to talk with at a local Indian museum. That was also the start of the “drug craze” for kids, and I can only relate what I learned from him… he considered all life sacred, which included plants. He was offended by “recreational” drug use because no respect was shown for the picking and preparation of the plants involved and without that reverence, the plant would no perform as it should. One time he had a big, tribal ceremony coming up and let me watch some of the preparation process--it took TWO WEEKS! You have to pick the plants at a specific time, they have to be cut in a certain way, it requires prayer and mediation and “talking” to the plant to explain what it is going to be used for… very involved. And if a “student” was going to use it, it took 4-6 YEARS of preparation, which included lessons, prayer and meditation to build ones energy, so when you went on the journey in the “shaman’s canoe”, you knew who and what you would encounter, how to interact respectfully, where you were and where you could go safely. He used to say that “short cut lead to dead end.” That’s all I can offer on the subject; think about it and see if what he said has any value to you.
Personally, I won't touch the stuff. I only got "high" once, courtesy of accidental alkaloid poisoning. Went on quite a "trip," where the entire world turned in to a game of Sid Meier's "Civilization." Loaded with deep, meaningful symbols and stuff, but otherwise had NO recognizable correspondence to the Other Realm of the temporal landscape.

Over the last 20 years, I have assisted others to "kick the habit" and make use of their natural abilities instead, and they have reported the same thing: that the drug experience has great "entertainment value," but little real benefit, compared to the true psychic skills one acquires when accessing the realm of 3D time.

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:40 am
by MarcRammer
I meditate on a pretty consistent basis and listen carefully to my dreams (many of which are precognicent) but was wondering if there are any other (natural) things anyone would suggest..

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:48 pm
by aurora
daniel wrote:IMHO, drug use is a personal decision, and none of my business. But when I was young, there was a Native American shaman I used to talk with at a local Indian museum. That was also the start of the “drug craze” for kids, and I can only relate what I learned from him… he considered all life sacred, which included plants. He was offended by “recreational” drug use because no respect was shown for the picking and preparation of the plants involved and without that reverence, the plant would no perform as it should. One time he had a big, tribal ceremony coming up and let me watch some of the preparation process--it took TWO WEEKS! You have to pick the plants at a specific time, they have to be cut in a certain way, it requires prayer and mediation and “talking” to the plant to explain what it is going to be used for… very involved. And if a “student” was going to use it, it took 4-6 YEARS of preparation, which included lessons, prayer and meditation to build ones energy, so when you went on the journey in the “shaman’s canoe”, you knew who and what you would encounter, how to interact respectfully, where you were and where you could go safely. He used to say that “short cut lead to dead end.” That’s all I can offer on the subject; think about it and see if what he said has any value to you.
Hello Daniel - after reading your quote here it made me start thinking about essential oils and aromatherapy. Granted, they are not used to alter a mind state, however they do work on the emotional and etheric levels. Come to think of it, they also can stimulate or relax the thinking process, make you feel euphoric, help with hormones and have an incredible variety of medicinal uses. There is probably no way of really knowing how the herbs were handled prior to the distillation process or how they were handled once they were packaged and shipped to be sold on the shelf. No wonder I have felt the need to use crystals to increase their vibrational frequency and always am thankful for what they are capable and willing to do. Then I send them with a simple prayer so that whomever purchases what I make will get the maximum benefits of each product that I can provide.

Re: Higher Densities: from abstraction to first-hand experie

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:58 pm
by aurora
MarcRammer wrote:I meditate on a pretty consistent basis and listen carefully to my dreams (many of which are precognicent) but was wondering if there are any other (natural) things anyone would suggest..
Marc - There are a couple of things you may want to try. My first thought is to meditate outside. Taking it one step further would be to stand up barefoot where you have direct contact with the earth so you can be grounded as you meditate. Another option you could incorporate is the use of crystals. There are many crystals that can be used for meditating depending on what you are looking to accomplish with it. If you are interested, a good place to start exploring with crystals is a book called, "The Crystal Bible" written by Judy Hall. There are also crystals that encourage lucid dreaming and past life recall. Have fun.